A Word about Windshields – Quality, Installation and Insurance Part 1

Windshields are important.  Quality glass is the key and proper installation is a must.

I’ve had at lot of windshields replaced, in my ’70 Mustang, the ’84 Vette I use to own (never thought I’d be saying that) and just about any my wife and I have owned.

With all that new glass came a wide range quality glass and the service.   I can sum most of it up in on word, shoddy!!!

It is hard to find someone to do the older cars properly and we’ve even had really horrible installation service.  Let me share some problems and a few things to do when you are dealing with what should be a non-eventful event.

The problems we’ve in countered in the first round were shoddy installation and glass that when you looked through it, you got the impression you were in a mobile carnival fun house.  This was a replacement of a windshield for our Nissan Maxima we owned a few years ago.  Not only was the glass distorted, but the when the installation was done, there was glass everywhere and there was a strange whistle.  Recalled the installers and they came back and replaced the glass a second time.  The second windshield fix was merely a repair not a replacement.  This where they fill the chip or small crack.  This was so horrible done, that the windshield wiper would skip when it hit the spot that was repaired.

Next up was a replacement for the ’84 Vette.  After going through problems with the Maxima, I decided to check out the glass before it installed.  The windshield that was brought was fun house quality again.  I sent it back and did a little research and then had them order Pilkington glass.  This was much better quality, but during the installation the failed to have the proper weather-stripping.  Once that was found, it was installed.  During the installation the installers broke off the plastic connectors for the windshield washer line, which they promised to replace, but never did.  Oh and the windshield leaked.  So I replaced the windshield washer line connector and re-accomplished the weather striping.

Next up was the Mustang.  On the way home from a car show a rock flew from the rear tire of the car in front cracked the windshield.  Well I learned enough that I wasn’t going to let just anyone put the class in.  I researched and found the proper quality glass and ordered it from a Mustang parts supply house.  I had in shipped to a body shop with guys I knew, why?  Because the clips that hold the glass in and the clips that hold the chrome molding were not something you want a the run of the mill glass installer do.  Plus I could help put it in.   This was a very successful install.

Recently my wife’s Lexus picked up a pretty good crack.  This would be the second windshield in 14 months for the this car.  After the lessons from above we called the dealership and found they had a recommended installer.  Now….here’s where the insurance company comes into play.  Every insurance company has “preferred” installers, but they can’t necessarily dictate where you get the car fixed.  We won that one.  Additionally my insurance company will authorize original factory class when the cars is under 3 years old.  Another win!!!!  Oh..don’t worry, the next install balanced out the good fortune of the first.

Three months ago a rock again introduced it’s self to the Lexus’ windshield.  But this time the car was deemed “too old” (just over 3 years old) by our insurance company for original factory glass.  We were only authorized to put in OEM.  Ok there is where a little  clarification is necessary.

Now folks will debate me and that’s fine, but the definitions I’m about to share, are from years of ordering and buying parts and that includes glass. I know they will debate, because I just had a round with the glass company for Lexus, and the installer and my insurance company.  All insisted that OEM is original equipment

OEM is not original equipment, it stands for Original Equipment Manufacturing.  It means the parts (or glass) is NOT manufactured by the car manufacturer, but by a company that is in some manner authorized or approved.  There is a difference and in most cases that is quality.  This isn’t a mystery to the car companies that is why they don’t authorize these manufacturers to use their logo.

Lexus logo.

Ok..off the soapbox, on to the  issues with the glass replacement for the Lexus.

First the company came and replaced the glass at my office (yes..I had to leave the Vette at home…..I’m ok…now..though!!!).  Nice enough guy, but three hours later I took the car out to lunch.  The rear view mirror, which on the Lexus has all sorts of stuff on it, temp, compass, auto dim, garage door opener and it even turns on your lights in your house is mounted in on the glass.  Which means that it had to be re-installed with the new windshield.  Half way to my destination, in heavy traffic the mirror fell from the windshield and swung back wild.  It’s about a $250.00 item.  Not to mention it’s dangerous, even more so in heavy traffic.

I call the installer back and he didn’t understand why I would be upset.  Oh and you’ll like this.  He informed me that he and his company knew that the adhesive supplied by the second-rate windshield did hold. It was like rubber cement.  He scraped it off and applied the quality permatex adhesive designed for that just this purpose.  I was taken back to say the least by his matter-of-fact attitude.  And still he could see why I would be upset.

While I was sitting there, ensuring he used the good stuff, I noticed that at the upper edges the glass was con-caved, so much so, that images appeared to be doubled, like a fun house mirror!!!! Totally unacceptable.

I returned to my office and called the installation company directly.  This resulted in a visit from the manager. We discussed the distortion and he agreed and we discussed the mirror and he stated that yes indeed that know this is a frequent occurrence and that there was nothing they could do.  I asked why they didn’t replace the adhesive while installing the glass, if they knew this was that frequent?  He didn’t have an answer for me.  He said he’d go back and look over the other glass for a better one.  I suggested he wait until I contacted the insurance company.

Next up…”The Insurance Company and the Price of Windshields”…or “What a Paint in the Glass”

Thanks for reading.

Tim

A Note About Blogging – Original or Run of the Mill

In two months I will have been writing this blog for 1 year and I have enjoy every minute of it.

When  you blog like I do, to share a specific area of interest, you are always trying to increase readership.  Now if this were a commercial enterprise for me, then increasing my readership would be Job One. (Come on, which car company’s slogan was that?  If Ford jumped into your head that would be correct.) However, it is not, but still I’m always searching for a way to make this blog a place more and more folks want to view.

There are a lots of ways to do that, none of them huge as far as bringing in the masses and some aren’t inexpensive and others are labor intensive. (Guess which one I do…oh…yeah…cheap and labor intensive…Average Guy….say it!!!!……Average Budget!!) While searching for ideas or processes I could take advantage of,  I ran across some helpful hints. One in particular makes sense, namely, keeping the site updated regularly.  This suggestion dictated that it be daily, which is really a good idea.  However, the method it promoted was to jam the blog with other folks news feeds, articles and automatic updates from outside sources.

I thought about this a bit and I tooled around the web and looked at commercial blogs and forums and I realized that everyone had read this particular tip and employed it.  And I thought, I just don’t see the point.  The blog is no longer the owners writings, but really just a reorganization of things floating around on the web.  Nope, not for me.

I still think keeping up the daily effort is the right way to go, but I can’t do it in that manner.

Although I do pop on videos that I think are cool and maybe a link to a forum or another blog,  I’m going to keep the core of this blog full of original material, meaning my own scribblings and occasionally notes from the readership.

The life’s blood of a blog run like I run this one, are comments and readers.  So drop me a note, ask a question, or give me a suggestion  ( I do requests).

Thanks for reading.

Tim

 

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Reader’s Pride and Joy His Chrysler LeBaron

One of my favorite things is to have a reader drop by virtually and tell me about their rides.  I’ve known Bill for 2 or 3 years now. We use to work in the same building and his car is nearly mint. What makes this even better is that Bill wrote up his own narrative.  So I just have to copy and paste.

Take it away Bill.

Hi Tim:

Here are some LeBaron pics. (Pic are below) There are some from back in 2004, and the most recent from Jan 1, 2009 when the car turned over 100K miles. We actually celebrated that day the car’s odometer adding that most significant 1 to 5 zeros.

I bought this car Oct 2nd, 1991 from Celebrity Chrysler Dodge in San Jose, CA. The sales price was a whopping $15,344.15 out the door and no, I did not get any paint protection package, or extended warranty.

I know you won’t believe this, but this has been the very best car I have ever owned. It currently has 110K miles, and has the original water pump, alternator, AC compressor and Freon, fuel pump, master cylinder, and I could go on and on. The transmission was rebuilt a few years back, but otherwise only wear and maintenance items have been replaced. It has been very dependable from day one. I still get 23MPG around town, and lots of ‘thumbs ups’ at red lights.

The top has been replaced in 2004, but the paint is all original. This car has never been in a car wash, nor in an accident-not even a fender bender.

I get asked quite frequently who painted the car, and there is disbelief when I tell them it is original paint. I guess that is testament to the DriWash products and good ol’elbow grease.

This car has lots of memories and by accident has become a member of the family. I enjoyed cruising from San Jose to Santa Barbara along the Pacific Coast Highway 1, a few beautiful evening drives to Lake Tahoe and Reno with the top down, summer trips to Monterey and cruising Pebble Beach and the 17 Mile Drive. One thing going for this car, it is the most fun you will ever have at 35MPH.

The LeBaron convertible was the longest run for the K CAR based derivatives, lasting from 1982 to early model year 1996 when the Sebring came on-line. The original 1982 model was a conversion by ASC, and Chrysler sold out of the entire production run in just three weeks. Lee Iacocca ordered that the 1983 model be built-in house, and Chrysler had tool and dies made to factory build the convertible. It was the ONLY factory built convertible until the late 1980s when the Corvette switched to in-house convertible production. Up until the Miata was introduced, the LeBaron was the number one selling convertible, not only in the USA, but globally.

It is hard to believe that a car so popular died off so quickly. Chalk it up to poor resale value and low-cost (read cheap) Chrysler manufacturing. I still credit the smallest of the Big Three with the return of the convertible, and feel the LeBaron has an ignored legacy.

Bill's LeBaron

The LeBaron at 100k miles

 

This car has the same motor that powered the Mitsubishi 3000 and Dodge Stealth, a 3.0l V6. In K CAR duty, this is a SOHC, 12V motor with a frumpy 147bhp. The transmission is the (infamous) A604 ‘UltraDrive’, which was in its 2nd year in 1991. This was the world’s first electronic valvebody controlled auto trans, and some were so problematic mechanics nicknamed it the ‘a-sick-oh-four’. Mine lasted to 94K miles without an issue other than a flash memory recall. I had it overhauled due to the overdrive clutch worn out.

Thanks Bill…great story!!!

Tim

Auto Factoids for ..Oh..Man..it’s Nov. already!!

Christmas is coming!!!….oh

We’ve got a couple debuts this week and a couple of birthdays.

11/1/1955 – Studebaker offers the public the Studebaker Hawk.

 

This is the '56 Studebaker Golden Hawk

 

 

 

11/2/1935 – Cord debuts is 810 model and at the same time Ford does the same with its Zephyr – both on the same day????!!!!!

 

1936 Cord 810

1936 Lincoln (Ford) Zephyr

 

 

James Packard was born 11/5/1863  – Founder of the Packard Car company – his company’s first car was 36 years later.

Edsel Ford was born 11/6/1893 – Henry’s kid, oh yeah..there’s was a car brand named after him

Carlo Abarth was born 11/6/1908 – I recently read about Carlo – racer (motorcycles/cars), auto designer linked up at one point with Porsche in Italy.

First Car show at the national level was held on 11/3/1900

 

Thanks for reading.

Tim